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Post by fishfaninpa on Jul 24, 2009 15:57:14 GMT -5
blogs.nypost.com/sports/backpage/archives/2009/07/report_rays_mov.htmlVarious outlets are reporting that MLB XM and MLB Network say "the Phillies may be close to a deal that will bring Roy Halladay" and it could be announced in the next 24 hours.
Halladay is scheduled to pitch tonight in Toronto against the Rays. It is worth watching to see if he actually takes the mound.
The Phillies have been considered the front-runner to land the 32-year-old right-hander since the Blue Jays announced early this month they would be listening to offers.
Blue Jays GM J.P. Ricciardi confirmed to the Philadelphia Inquirer that he has spoken with the Phillies.
"We haven't talked in specifics," he said. "But they have an idea what we're looking for."
The paper reports, "Ricciardi would not name the Phillies players he wants, but several people with knowledge of the talks between the two teams said the Jays would require pitchers Drabek and Happ in the deal. And that's just a start. There are indications that the Jays also like minor-league outfielder Dominic Brown, who is considered the Phils' top position-player prospect by baseball people inside and outside the Phillies' organization."
The Toronto Sun reported today the Rays could be looking to trade Scott Kazmir in order to make room for Halladay.
"I think that some of the teams that are interested are trying to maybe move some pieces that they have to acquire the players, they have to go through their exercises," Ricciardi said. "But that's not our problem."
The St. Petersburg Times confirmed the Rays have interest in Halladay and Cleveland's Cliff Lee.
"We are always very active in conversations this time of year and this year is no exception,'' executive Andrew Friedman said. "As we have said, we have supreme confidence in the 25 guys we have but we'll continue to have conversations in the event something lines up."
The Sun reports Halladay has supplied the Blue Jays "with a list of teams to which he would be willing to be traded." However, the paper does not reveal those teams.
FOXSports.com reports "Halladay has told several Tampa Bay players that he would waive his no-trade clause to play for the Rays, according to major-league sources."
Ricciardi says he's gotten "a few more" calls asking about Halladay. He said some progress needs to be made before the team's self-imposed July 28 deadline for a deal (the MLB non-waiver trade deadline is July 31).
"If we're down the road with something, obviously the deadline can fluctuate," Ricciardi said. "But if we're not down the road by the 28th, nothing's going to happen."
The Los Angeles Times reports "Angels owner Arte Moreno said the club remains interested in acquiring an ace starter," either Halladay or Lee.
"We're keeping all our options open," Moreno told the paper. "If we can see a fair deal for someone we believe can help our team, we're going to compete there. We don't have any financial constraints."
But Bill Shaikin writes, "However, a trade for a veteran reliever appears more likely."
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Post by Ramp on Jul 24, 2009 15:58:30 GMT -5
I'm confused... they would be stupid to acquire Halladay?
or did I miss something crazy in the article?
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Post by fishfaninpa on Jul 24, 2009 16:02:59 GMT -5
No, im just being bitter that they'd get this done.
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Post by MiamiHomer on Jul 24, 2009 16:05:46 GMT -5
I hate my life.
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Post by FishFF on Jul 24, 2009 16:10:15 GMT -5
The Marlins reportedly were in the hunt for Halladay but refused to part with their franchise player Emilio Bonifacio.
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Post by MiamiHomer on Jul 24, 2009 16:11:51 GMT -5
So like if this happens and it looks closer than ever how can we compete with this team for the next two years and possibly even longer if they sign him to an extension?
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Post by fishfaninpa on Jul 24, 2009 16:13:40 GMT -5
I really hope it's not true. I also wish we had the FO to be creative enough to do something like this. I realize the price is high but it's something you need to do to win. We need a bat and should have been in on Holliday or something of his level.
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Post by Ramp on Jul 24, 2009 16:20:27 GMT -5
as much as I dislike our front office, when you don't have any money, you can't really be creative here
unless you offer Stanton, West and Morrison and then have the Jays eat half the salary
in no way can we feasibly afford Roy Halladay
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Post by fishfaninpa on Jul 24, 2009 16:46:39 GMT -5
What about Cliff Lee? He would be real nice to have in our rotation and prolly cheaper acquisition wise to get.
What about goin after Matt Holliday? I mean it would be nice if we even made a little deal or two but I fear that won't happen either.
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Post by MiamiHomer on Jul 24, 2009 16:48:23 GMT -5
The Indians want a similar deal like the Bedard and what Halladay would take.
Matt Holliday was traded to STL...
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Post by fishfaninpa on Jul 24, 2009 16:51:59 GMT -5
I know he was MH. Thank you. I'm just saying...why not kick the tires and see what they wanted for him. Try building off the groundbreaking and make a deal or two to position us in the wild card.
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Post by MiamiHomer on Jul 24, 2009 16:53:57 GMT -5
Sorry, didn't really understand what you originally meant with the Holliday comment.
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Post by Beef on Jul 24, 2009 16:57:43 GMT -5
What makes you think we can get Lee? I never really like throwing around names but I especially don't like comments like you wish our front office would be creative enough to pull a deal like this. You know who didnt have a front office creative enough to pull of a deal like that? Every team in baseball except for maybe one. Yeah, it'd be real nice to have lots of guys in our rotation, but lots of guys aren't going to happen. Maybe Cliff Lee would be cheaper, but maybe not by much. He still makes a shitload of money, but less than Halladay, so they may want something more since the guy is coming at a cheaper $ price. It is easy to make vague statements about we should get this guy, but its not as easy to do and you probably wouldnt like who we would have to give up to make the things happen that you want to happen
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Post by MiamiHomer on Jul 24, 2009 17:06:23 GMT -5
Ed Price of AOL FanHouse hears that the Jays are considering trading Halladay to the Phillies for Kyle Drabek, Michael Taylor, Jason Donald and Lou Marson. However, no deal appears to be close. |
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Post by fishfaninpa on Jul 24, 2009 17:16:12 GMT -5
I'm sorry Beef. There's no excuse for any of the teams not to call the Jays/Indians/Team X to ask them about their guy. Worst thing that happens is they say you don't have what we want. How do you know that Cliff Lee couldnt be ours for Matt Lindstrom and Chris Coghlan and that's it? Obviously, they'd want a lot but if they perceive a prospect/player on our team better then others then why not ask.
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